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Subject:Re: Windows 11 - The end of Paradox compatibility?
Date:5 Jul 2021 07:43:20 -0400
From:"Jeremy Stagg" <jeremy.stagg@itsysadmin.com.au>
Newsgroups:pnews.paradox-discussions

Thanks to all for responses re Runtime 10 SP3 or 4 ... helped clarify availability
for me.
Re ODBC and Wine, no not yet. Preoccupied with developing methods to replace
MAPI and emailing using chosen clients in both Linux and MacOS. This is the
adventure I didn't expect.

"Steven Green" <greens@diamondsg.com> wrote:
>>Would anyone have a copy of the Paradox 10 runtime versions SP3 or 4 ?
The
>>online patch only works with the WordPerfect 2002 office install, not 
>>runtime.
>
>there is no SP3 or 4 for P10 Runtime.. SP2 is what is used
>
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>"Jeremy Stagg"  wrote in message news:60df9b83$1@pnews.thedbcommunity.com...
>
>
>I'm running a project for a customer in Crossover (Codeweavers) with Pdx10
>runtime SP2. Prefer SP3 or 4 (cannot find a copy of runtime to these version
>levels).
>Anyhow, being MacOS BigSur with no 32 bit code it appears to be running
ok,
>no table issues so far. However some slight oddities re file date stamps
>for printer drivers as reported by system info (Paradox runtime help menu).
>Under Debian Linux with 32- and 64-bit wine code environment (PlayOnLinux)
>the Paradox 10 runtime has no such oddities and performs I think even 
>faster.
>Encouraging enough to dump Windows requirements and use a Linux terminal
>server style approach with either X2Go or NoMachine.
>Paradox 11 full application installs and runs, as does the runtime code
in
>the same environment. Using the "Bottles" options available means multiple
>quasi windows environments on the same physical machine or user's session.
>Suggest look outside the Microsoft box as there are options available, 
>particularly
>as businesses will have less cash flow for some time.
>Would anyone have a copy of the Paradox 10 runtime versions SP3 or 4 ? The
>online patch only works with the WordPerfect 2002 office install, not 
>runtime.
>
>"Kevin Zawicki" <numberjack@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Having read through MANY blogs and such, I think it is a leap to say 
>>Paradox
>>will not run on Windows 11, at this time.
>>
>>MS pulled the "checker" tool to test for Windows 11 upgrade compatibility
>>so we cannot check.
>>
>>For Windows 10:
>>The Windows 7 to 10 checker did block and flag on one of my PCs as it had
>>a very old Dreamweaver. Once Dreamweaver removed it upgraded. I was 
>>thinking
>>it must check hardware and apps and maybe flag apps as a stopper, so thus
>>flag Corel Suite for Win11 if not working.
>>
>>Every 2 years people say Paradox will not run on Win XXX for the past 3-4
>>versions of Windows... yet so far it has...
>>Eventually the doomsayers of Paradox will be right but I want to get a

>>Windows
>>11 upgrade and test to know for sure.
>>
>>Also, one thing to watch is Wordperfect Suites. If they have a new version
>>that is for / runs on Win11 with Paradox, Paradox will likely run. 
>>Wordperfect
>>(years ago) stated that they would not include Paradox in the suite if
the
>>OS would not allow it. They can't.
>>Some statement to the effect that if it was (maybe at the time) Windows
>8.1
>>compatible all the products in Suite would run.
>>
>>Even though no changes to Paradox, they must certify it to run  to have
>MS
>>flag of approval.
>>
>>Also, I figure I have almost 8 years on my current Win10 machines having
>>run Win7 for a long time passed its "end".
>>
>>My largest system business owner said "lets see if we are still in busses
>>in 5 years and plan then..."
>>
>>So many businesses took a huge COVID hit, there is no appetite to build
>new
>>systems and machines right now.
>>
>>
>>
>>Bernie van't Hof <onrequest@somewhere> wrote:
>>>Is it unreasonable to think that windows will not continue to support
>>>ancient applications?
>>>
>>>As pointed out earlier in this thread, there exist excellent
>>>virtualisations to natively run ancient software and old OS's in modern
>>
>>>OS's.
>>>
>>>On 30/6/21 7:45 pm, Bernie van't Hof wrote:
>>>> I'm bound to get slapped for this, but (as an avid mac fan for more
than
>>
>>>> decade) I had to chuckle reading Znet's barfs about imminent Win11 
>>>> release:
>>>> "Thanks to Windows 11, Microsoft is going to help Apple sell a lot of
>>
>>>> Silicon Macs."
>>>>
>>>> [Ducking down out of the line of fire...]
>>>>
>>>> - Bernie
>>>>
>>>> On 28/6/21 6:11 pm, Tom Krieg wrote:
>>>>> My reading of the Windows 11 announcement (and the hardware
>>>>> requirements to run it) is that Paradox probably won't install or run
>>
>>>>> under Windows 11. So anyone still running a Paradox applicationĀ  in
>>
>>>>> their business should look to move to a newer platform before 2025.
>4
>>
>>>>> years is plenty of time to prepare.
>> 
>


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