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Subject:Re: Windows 11 - The end of Paradox compatibility?
Date:5 Jul 2021 16:52:06 -0400
From:"Kevin Zawicki" <>

developing methods to replace MAPI and emailing

In OPAL? I would like to see that...

"Jeremy Stagg" <> wrote:
>Thanks to all for responses re Runtime 10 SP3 or 4 ... helped clarify availability
>for me.
>Re ODBC and Wine, no not yet. Preoccupied with developing methods to replace
>MAPI and emailing using chosen clients in both Linux and MacOS. This is
>adventure I didn't expect.
>"Steven Green" <> wrote:
>>>Would anyone have a copy of the Paradox 10 runtime versions SP3 or 4 ?
>>>online patch only works with the WordPerfect 2002 office install, not

>>there is no SP3 or 4 for P10 Runtime.. SP2 is what is used
>>Steven Green
>>Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, USA
>>Collectibles and Memorabilia
>>Vintage Lego Sets and Parts
>>- and Paradox support, too
>>"Jeremy Stagg"  wrote in message news:60df9b83$
>>I'm running a project for a customer in Crossover (Codeweavers) with Pdx10
>>runtime SP2. Prefer SP3 or 4 (cannot find a copy of runtime to these version
>>Anyhow, being MacOS BigSur with no 32 bit code it appears to be running
>>no table issues so far. However some slight oddities re file date stamps
>>for printer drivers as reported by system info (Paradox runtime help menu).
>>Under Debian Linux with 32- and 64-bit wine code environment (PlayOnLinux)
>>the Paradox 10 runtime has no such oddities and performs I think even 
>>Encouraging enough to dump Windows requirements and use a Linux terminal
>>server style approach with either X2Go or NoMachine.
>>Paradox 11 full application installs and runs, as does the runtime code
>>the same environment. Using the "Bottles" options available means multiple
>>quasi windows environments on the same physical machine or user's session.
>>Suggest look outside the Microsoft box as there are options available,

>>as businesses will have less cash flow for some time.
>>Would anyone have a copy of the Paradox 10 runtime versions SP3 or 4 ?
>>online patch only works with the WordPerfect 2002 office install, not 
>>"Kevin Zawicki" <> wrote:
>>>Having read through MANY blogs and such, I think it is a leap to say 
>>>will not run on Windows 11, at this time.
>>>MS pulled the "checker" tool to test for Windows 11 upgrade compatibility
>>>so we cannot check.
>>>For Windows 10:
>>>The Windows 7 to 10 checker did block and flag on one of my PCs as it
>>>a very old Dreamweaver. Once Dreamweaver removed it upgraded. I was 
>>>it must check hardware and apps and maybe flag apps as a stopper, so thus
>>>flag Corel Suite for Win11 if not working.
>>>Every 2 years people say Paradox will not run on Win XXX for the past
>>>versions of Windows... yet so far it has...
>>>Eventually the doomsayers of Paradox will be right but I want to get a
>>>11 upgrade and test to know for sure.
>>>Also, one thing to watch is Wordperfect Suites. If they have a new version
>>>that is for / runs on Win11 with Paradox, Paradox will likely run. 
>>>(years ago) stated that they would not include Paradox in the suite if
>>>OS would not allow it. They can't.
>>>Some statement to the effect that if it was (maybe at the time) Windows
>>>compatible all the products in Suite would run.
>>>Even though no changes to Paradox, they must certify it to run  to have
>>>flag of approval.
>>>Also, I figure I have almost 8 years on my current Win10 machines having
>>>run Win7 for a long time passed its "end".
>>>My largest system business owner said "lets see if we are still in busses
>>>in 5 years and plan then..."
>>>So many businesses took a huge COVID hit, there is no appetite to build
>>>systems and machines right now.
>>>Bernie van't Hof <onrequest@somewhere> wrote:
>>>>Is it unreasonable to think that windows will not continue to support
>>>>ancient applications?
>>>>As pointed out earlier in this thread, there exist excellent
>>>>virtualisations to natively run ancient software and old OS's in modern
>>>>On 30/6/21 7:45 pm, Bernie van't Hof wrote:
>>>>> I'm bound to get slapped for this, but (as an avid mac fan for more
>>>>> decade) I had to chuckle reading Znet's barfs about imminent Win11

>>>>> release:
>>>>> "Thanks to Windows 11, Microsoft is going to help Apple sell a lot
>>>>> Silicon Macs."
>>>>> [Ducking down out of the line of fire...]
>>>>> - Bernie
>>>>> On 28/6/21 6:11 pm, Tom Krieg wrote:
>>>>>> My reading of the Windows 11 announcement (and the hardware
>>>>>> requirements to run it) is that Paradox probably won't install or
>>>>>> under Windows 11. So anyone still running a Paradox applicationĀ 
>>>>>> their business should look to move to a newer platform before 2025.
>>>>>> years is plenty of time to prepare.

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