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Subject:Re: Windows 11 - The end of Paradox compatibility?
Date:10 Mar 2022 02:59:39 -0400
From:"Jeremy Stagg" <>

"Jeremy Stagg" <> wrote:

Well, it's been an adventure that I'm nearly coming to an end on :-)
One issue that remains is the delivery of a library (lsl -> ldl) and the
complaint of:
"library this file does not have any symbol table information"
when referring to a delivered library from the main form, inthe "Uses" list
of libraries
Source library files (lsl) work fine.
Any tips as there about 1 paragraph I can find that relates to symbol table.

>I'll let you know ...
>"Kevin Zawicki" <> wrote:
>>developing methods to replace MAPI and emailing
>>In OPAL? I would like to see that...
>>"Jeremy Stagg" <> wrote:
>>>Thanks to all for responses re Runtime 10 SP3 or 4 ... helped clarify
>>>for me.
>>>Re ODBC and Wine, no not yet. Preoccupied with developing methods to replace
>>>MAPI and emailing using chosen clients in both Linux and MacOS. This is
>>>adventure I didn't expect.
>>>"Steven Green" <> wrote:
>>>>>Would anyone have a copy of the Paradox 10 runtime versions SP3 or 4
>>>>>online patch only works with the WordPerfect 2002 office install, not
>>>>there is no SP3 or 4 for P10 Runtime.. SP2 is what is used
>>>>Steven Green
>>>>Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, USA
>>>>Collectibles and Memorabilia
>>>>Vintage Lego Sets and Parts
>>>>- and Paradox support, too
>>>>"Jeremy Stagg"  wrote in message news:60df9b83$
>>>>I'm running a project for a customer in Crossover (Codeweavers) with
>>>>runtime SP2. Prefer SP3 or 4 (cannot find a copy of runtime to these
>>>>Anyhow, being MacOS BigSur with no 32 bit code it appears to be running
>>>>no table issues so far. However some slight oddities re file date stamps
>>>>for printer drivers as reported by system info (Paradox runtime help
>>>>Under Debian Linux with 32- and 64-bit wine code environment (PlayOnLinux)
>>>>the Paradox 10 runtime has no such oddities and performs I think even
>>>>Encouraging enough to dump Windows requirements and use a Linux terminal
>>>>server style approach with either X2Go or NoMachine.
>>>>Paradox 11 full application installs and runs, as does the runtime code
>>>>the same environment. Using the "Bottles" options available means multiple
>>>>quasi windows environments on the same physical machine or user's session.
>>>>Suggest look outside the Microsoft box as there are options available,
>>>>as businesses will have less cash flow for some time.
>>>>Would anyone have a copy of the Paradox 10 runtime versions SP3 or 4
>>>>online patch only works with the WordPerfect 2002 office install, not
>>>>"Kevin Zawicki" <> wrote:
>>>>>Having read through MANY blogs and such, I think it is a leap to say
>>>>>will not run on Windows 11, at this time.
>>>>>MS pulled the "checker" tool to test for Windows 11 upgrade compatibility
>>>>>so we cannot check.
>>>>>For Windows 10:
>>>>>The Windows 7 to 10 checker did block and flag on one of my PCs as it
>>>>>a very old Dreamweaver. Once Dreamweaver removed it upgraded. I was

>>>>>it must check hardware and apps and maybe flag apps as a stopper, so
>>>>>flag Corel Suite for Win11 if not working.
>>>>>Every 2 years people say Paradox will not run on Win XXX for the past
>>>>>versions of Windows... yet so far it has...
>>>>>Eventually the doomsayers of Paradox will be right but I want to get
>>>>>11 upgrade and test to know for sure.
>>>>>Also, one thing to watch is Wordperfect Suites. If they have a new version
>>>>>that is for / runs on Win11 with Paradox, Paradox will likely run. 
>>>>>(years ago) stated that they would not include Paradox in the suite
>>>>>OS would not allow it. They can't.
>>>>>Some statement to the effect that if it was (maybe at the time) Windows
>>>>>compatible all the products in Suite would run.
>>>>>Even though no changes to Paradox, they must certify it to run  to have
>>>>>flag of approval.
>>>>>Also, I figure I have almost 8 years on my current Win10 machines having
>>>>>run Win7 for a long time passed its "end".
>>>>>My largest system business owner said "lets see if we are still in busses
>>>>>in 5 years and plan then..."
>>>>>So many businesses took a huge COVID hit, there is no appetite to build
>>>>>systems and machines right now.
>>>>>Bernie van't Hof <onrequest@somewhere> wrote:
>>>>>>Is it unreasonable to think that windows will not continue to support
>>>>>>ancient applications?
>>>>>>As pointed out earlier in this thread, there exist excellent
>>>>>>virtualisations to natively run ancient software and old OS's in modern
>>>>>>On 30/6/21 7:45 pm, Bernie van't Hof wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm bound to get slapped for this, but (as an avid mac fan for
>>>>>>> decade) I had to chuckle reading Znet's barfs about imminent Win11
>>>>>>> release:
>>>>>>> "Thanks to Windows 11, Microsoft is going to help Apple sell a
>>>>>>> Silicon Macs."
>>>>>>> [Ducking down out of the line of fire...]
>>>>>>> - Bernie
>>>>>>> On 28/6/21 6:11 pm, Tom Krieg wrote:
>>>>>>>> My reading of the Windows 11 announcement (and the hardware
>>>>>>>> requirements to run it) is that Paradox probably won't install
>>>>>>>> under Windows 11. So anyone still running a Paradox applicationĀ
>>>>>>>> their business should look to move to a newer platform before
>>>>>>>> years is plenty of time to prepare.

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